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Empower local leaders. Empower families.
Those two key concepts are the driving force behind Help One Now, a non-profit organization working in developing countries to help end extreme poverty. The mission is simple: if you empower families through education and entrepreneurship, you can change the world.
So how does this apply to your retail business? In this episode, we chat with Chris Marlow, CEO of Help One Now, and show how you can apply the same principles of hyper-focus on being a neighbor in your own community and providing solutions to unique problems faced in your area.
Plus, don’t miss the end where we surprise Chris and offer a way for you to be involved!
Full Transcription
Mark Kinsley
Quinn, you like that. That’s the old show. Intro.
Mark Quinn
I love that. That’s fantastic. And we are now in furniture. So you had to readjust everything. So that’s pretty dang good. Right?
Mark Kinsley
I press the wrong button. Imagine that. But hey, see, it’s not Throwback Thursday. It’s Monday. But coming up this Thursday, we’re going to throw back a lot of food because it’s going to be Thanksgiving. And this is our annual maybe the first ever official giving episode. And we’re doing it with our good friend Chris Marlowe. Now, let me give you a proper intro. And you can tell me what I missed Chris. So Chris is the founder of help one now, a nonprofit that empowers families in developing countries through high capacity local leaders with proven solutions to end extreme poverty. Chris is the author of doing good is simple. Making a difference right where you are. And he’s a member of the Forbes nonprofit Council. He’s married to the amazing Nicole Marlowe, who’s wonderful. He has two daughters both in college right now. And after residing, most recently in Nashville, Tennessee, he now lives in the mountain biking capital of the world. Bentonville, Arkansas. And Chris, what did we miss? Welcome to the show.
Chris Marlow
Well, most of that’s lies, but at the end of the day, I’ll take all of it. That’s all that matters. Right? So no, that’s it. That’s I do have a 104 pound German Shepherd puppy. So I guess she’s not really a puppy anymore. But yeah, that’s it. I’m super excited to be with you guys today. I’m very I mean, I’ve never been on the number one podcast in any category in my life. And so the fact that I finally arrived to this podcast means a lot to me.
Mark Quinn
Well, Kinsley, I was hearing the intro, and I thought, Wait, we’re not anymore. The only we’re gonna have to revise that part of it, too. We’re not the only one anymore. Although it’s still the galaxy’s best. I think Chris will attest to that after the show’s over with.
Mark Kinsley
Well, Chris, let’s, uh, let’s start with a story here. So the very first time I met you was not in Bentonville. But I went with a group of guys and gals up to Columbia, Missouri, near Columbia, Missouri to ride the Katy Trail. And so the Katy Trail for those who don’t know is the longest Rails to Trails project in the United States where they took an old railroad bed, and they basically scraped it because it wasn’t being used anymore. Now, it’s an amazing bike trail that goes about 240 miles across most of the state. You show up, having, to my knowledge, never ridden gravel before, and you bang out over 60 miles on your first ride.
Chris Marlow
I tell you what, I have a great mattress, and I was sleeping well the day before. And so that was fine, right? That’s all that matters. So no, honestly, it was amazing. Like I didn’t know our mutual friend Mike rush said, Hey, why don’t you come? And I think they know the backdrop is COVID Right? We hadn’t seen each other so long. And so to an extent, we’re trying to figure out like, how do I like see my people again? And it’s like, well, we got to bike ride and be really safe out in nature and like, have this amazing time. And I’m like a bike ride like what is like, what do you mean by bike ride? He’s like, Well, it’s gravel biking. Now, here’s the other issue Mark and Mark, I couldn’t find the gravel bike. So literally, it was like, it took me forever to actually locate a bike because they’re sold out everywhere. And I happened to find a bike in St. Louis. And so of all places, it was right where we were starting. And so I said, Yes, this crazy experiment, which I think talks a lot about life, right? Like, how do you be curious? How do you try new things, and I remember showing up, and the first day was fun, Kinsley, but the second day was miserable, because it was like the frozen tundra, when rain and I were actually talking about this the other day, like, I remember finishing the second day saying, I’m so stupid, why am I hanging out with these guys in this place, and I’m completely frozen. And I just really wanted to move back to Southern California, where my roots are from.
Mark Kinsley
Yeah, that look was on very a lot of people’s face that day. Now, of course, the first day, we did a total of 125 ish miles. And so that was brutal and dumb on so many levels. And then the next day, we did that, because that next day rain was coming. And that’s where I peeled off and went saw really good friends of mine live in Colombia, because I used to live in Colombia, and you guys went out there with rain gear on and probably covered about 40 miles and came back. Not in the best mood, I don’t think
Chris Marlow
I mean, well, I mean, that’s why we kind of went through a few bottles of tequila that evening, we can talk about that later.
Mark Kinsley
Anybody that comes on the show we like if you have a good tequila drinking story. So we’ll get to that at some point, because I think you have one. But we wanted to also get to some principles of giving. They can help your business and we have a lot of furniture, mattress retailers that listen to the show, huge hearts involved in their communities, their people have faith many times, they’re people who give from the goodness of their heart, and probably many of them privately give a lot. But we’ve talked about this principle of giving in our book, come back to bed, and you wrote an entire book about giving, calling doing good at simple. So in our book, let’s tie these two things together. Because I think there’s important business principles in here that you can think about this time of year going into the holidays and beyond. And one of those was our cage framework. So we wanted to show people, what are the different big rocks that you could carry around to make part of your business that could get you involved in your community, and make meaningful connections with consumers? So we had community answers, giving an experiences. And so we actually said, if you want to capture Bigfoot traffic, you know, Bigfoot, you got to have a cage to capture Bigfoot. So let’s talk about the GE and giving because you help people understand why they give how to give, how to make giving simple, take us into what you talk about with businesses.
Chris Marlow
Yeah, Mark, and Mark, it’s so fascinating, right? Like we we live in such pressure packed, intense world. And it’s so easy for us to wake up each and every day. So overwhelmed by life, and business, and even to an extent just our own personal responsibilities with our families. That we often forget that one of the best ways to live a really good life is to be a good neighbor. And then I think part of neighboring that’s very fascinating, is we can either say is that my direct neighbor? Or is it just neighboring. And I think one of the things we’re seeing right now with the new global connection that we have around the world, is my neighbors now definitely live next door to me, most of them are mountain bikers. And then but I also have these amazing friends around the world. And so when I think of neighboring now, I really do think of, you know, the people I do life with here in Bentonville now, but also people that I love and care for all over the world. And we all have kind of the same basic framework and things in common. We want to live a good life, we want to take care of our kids, we want to live with purpose. And so we have so we’re so much more connected than we realize. And oftentimes I think the complexity of giving is, you know, we see this over and over is there so much to give to and there’s so many issues that we’re facing as kind of humans on this earth, that it’s easy to really kind of freeze up and get paralyzed and not quite know how to give and how to give well. And one of the powerful things about giving is there’s so much power in giving. And also when you give you shouldn’t be receiving so that we giving should bring life, it should bring hope it should bring progress. And so we think about it from a business level. I think one of the things we all know, is being authentic is so vital in the business community these days. And when people are picking or choose who they want to connect with and buy product from. We’re asking deeper questions now than ever. It’s no longer about me just getting a product. It’s about me getting a product that kind of fits my worldview, and to get the convictions that I have. I think one of the most things the business community can do. And I think one caveat is often the business community has kind of allowed the faith community or the government to think through complex problems the world’s facing. But at the end of the day, the business community is really set up well to solve some of these complicated problems, because they have the talent, they have some oftentimes the resources, the networks. And so I think there’s this thin fine line of being an authentic business that’s giving back and that’s creating a community that cares about certain issues, but also realizing the business community is positioned really well to make a difference in the world. And I think we’re seeing business leaders rise up now more than ever to tackle some of these problems, where we may be losing a little bit of faith in our in the government systems and or even sometimes the faith systems. So definitely a good opportunity to do it. Right. And if we do it right, and Well, it’d be a mutual benefit for all involved,
Mark Kinsley
I have two takeaways immediately. So dose takeaways on the dose Marco show. Number one, you talked about neighboring. And then you talked about the business community solving problems, we’ve got a great example of this, in our industry, a shining example of this and it’s mattress Mac down in Houston, Texas, the second most famous person in Houston. And mattress Mac not only buys a high water truck, that he can take into the flooding and get people out, make sure they’re safe. He also I mean, the guy most recently, you know, besides betting on the Astros, put together a trade school on his property. And he has these lunch, these nuns from a local parish come there and teach. But he saw the decline in trade school opportunities and jobs. And he decided to neighbor it, and he decided that business was better set up to tackle this problem than government or the faith community or whoever it was, whatever the situation, he took ownership of it. And I love that concept of be a neighbor and be the solution as well. And don’t don’t think that the government is the answer to everything. I think that has seemed like a bit of a default position for a lot of people. And that’s not the answer.
Chris Marlow
Yes. And I can actually match us Mac is good friends with some big couple now supporters, Marcus and Melilla Trail, which we all know kind of mark is from, you know, the lone survivor show in the book and to just amazing humans. And one of the things that when I’m talking about to Marcus and Melanie, they actually use matches Mac as someone who’s been a guide to their entire city and what it means to really give back in an authentic way. And so the fact Mark that you mentioned him is it’s true, like not only is he tangibly helping folks and raising money, especially after all the hurricanes and floods that have gone through Houston in the last decade. But he’s setting a precedent for the business community to realize you can make a huge impact it can be completely authentic. At the same time, like you’re the way you live a meaningful life is just deeper. Now, when we think about mattress, Mac, we’re not thinking about how much money he’s made, how successful his businesses, we’re thinking about very practical things like he’s actually making a real difference in his community. And now that’s what people know, mattress Mac for more than mattresses.
Mark Quinn
Chris, you know, you do a lot of work with companies. And so we’ve been talking about that. So can you talk to us a little bit about? So what does it mean, for any business, when they start inserting purpose into what they do? Right, so now that they can rally around something together, they can get their people excited. And you know, back in the day, guys, remember Tom shoes, how novel that idea was, they called it back then to cause marketing and, you know, buy a pair of shoes. And now that’s really taken off in in a much different way. So, Chris, I’m wrapping a lot together. But talk to us about when you are working with companies. Can you give us an example of maybe how it has really brought companies together? Because there’s a core, there’s a core purpose and function there?
Chris Marlow
Yeah, I think it’s great. We were actually working with a company here in Bentonville called Happy AG. And I think one of the things I love about happy, I mean, they’re just obviously just a successful company. But one of the things they do is they drive this culture of like innovation and change, and they take what they’re really good at. And they try to like cans, we solve other key problems. And so if you think about happy AIG, you know, they’re one of the largest companies in the world. They’re kind of like a boutique, a company. But they basically came to us and said, Hey, we want to make a difference around the world, like, you know, how can we bring our expertise to solve a legitimate problem, they do a lot of local stuff, too. But so what they’ve done basically, it’s helped create an entire, like, AIG plant farm type thing in Haiti. And so they went down and partner with our local leaders, they’re in Haiti. They’ve raised money. They’ve got their entire employees kind of around this mission and vision as well. So it’s quite an amazing company culture and For the last three or four years, they’ve methodically have gone through this process to where, as soon as we can, we’ll eventually see like this really massive AIG producing company in Haiti. And they’re taking their expertise and what they know about, they’re connected with the org, I can help one now, and then connect them with the most brilliant people in a place like Haiti. And they’re able to transfer their knowledge, wisdom and skills. But I think what’s beautiful about that, is, companies have to be careful to do this in an authentic way, because we will sniff out if you’re doing it for marketing or for profit, right. So it doesn’t mean there’s not good marketing or good profit that can never be a part of the narrative. But I think happy AIG or other companies, the most important thing you can do is it has to be authentic, it has to be something that that really matters to you and your employees, and that will transfer them and kind of to your customer base, and your customers will feel that connection. And I think that will definitely help and so many ways, but ultimately comes down to like, if you’re not authentic, this can actually backfire on you. And people will actually walk away from wanting to be a part of your company, so happy not only doing the work, they’re doing the hard work, you know, they’re sending people down. They’re doing research and development, we’ve had a couple failures in the process because of geopolitical issues in Haiti. And they stuck with it. So I think every time I talked to folks in our company, they’re so excited to work there. Because they feel this greater sense of purpose and meaning. And I think that matters more now than ever.
Mark Kinsley
When we’ve got a good friend that rides with us, Eric Martin, Taffy, a shout out to Eric, the know about the work the company was doing. And that’s, it reminds me of maybe something that pops into people’s heads when they think about giving. And they think about making it authentic. And they think about getting involved in their communities versus doing something like happy egg is done outside of the country, help help us walk through how people think about giving in their own backyards, and in their own community, versus sending dollars to places with extreme poverty, how to how do people typically walk through that and find peace
Chris Marlow
in it? Yeah, I think well, first of all, I would say it’s really based on friendship and connection, right. And so basically, the people that that kind of serve and help with our narrative to do, you know, kind of, they have this global connection, that’s global friendship. And so one of things we try to do is we try to get people around a table to listen to each other’s stories. So there can be the deeper connection. And I think anytime we’re connected to something that we care about, we’re going to then invest our time, or talent or energy, and whatnot. So I think, you know, one of the major responsibilities we all have is, you know, we get up every single day, and we do most of our life in the communities that we live in. And we we are we want to make an impact in those communities. And so I think one of the things that we need to do is just listen to the people, the helpers, who are making the impact. And I think, you know, sometimes we’re so driven, you know, obviously, for Republic companies, but all of us were so driven to this quarter to quarter to quarter kind of mentality where we’re just running so hard, that oftentimes I say this all the time, how one of the best things we can do in life is to get out in front of regret. And oftentimes, we regret something and then we start working backwards. And so one of things I think, if you’re a business leader, one of things you can do is like, you may succeed at the highest possible level, and not feel successful. And I think one of the reasons we oftentimes don’t feel successful is we recognize, like, wait a minute, there’s more to life than just profit, or customers, or you know, all these different things like giving back to our community. It matters, it means something. So it’s one thing to build a great business. It’s another thing to build a great business that helps build a great community. And so we tie those two things together, I think we go back to the Mac matches, Max built a great business, but he’s built a great community in Houston. And I think that really matters. I think what we’ll do in life as well, actually. And I know we all have seen this and I’ve been I’ve experienced myself, we are so successful, but you’re still not at peace with your success. And I have a feeling when we begin to give back and serve. And like really create beautiful community. It’s not only will we be thankful for success in the material side of it, but we’ll be thankful for our success and like in maybe the greater side, which is we’ve made our community better as we’ve grown our businesses.
Mark Kinsley
I’m totally gonna butcher this, but I got a voice text, you know, you can leave a voice text on an iPhone, from that man who has a podcast on the fam. And he said he read a billboard at a church, which usually, you know, unless you get into some sort of like chicken war, they’re not the best. But he said the billboard was something to the effect of if you’re wondering what to do with your life, and you’re just sitting there waiting, do what waiters do serve as like Ah, that’s good. One, there it is. That’s a good one. Hey, tell us, Chris, tell us about I want to know about help one now a little bit. You want locals to lead? You want family empowerment. And so whenever I found out, you know about your mission of family empowerment, we are the fam. You know, you’re empowering families across the globe who are living in extreme poverty, what how are you helping them? I mean, I like these stories, too, for this audience, because we have family businesses here. And at some point, somebody gave them a hand. And that’s what you’re doing, and you’re actually helping families start
Chris Marlow
business. Sure. There are two things that are there really, it’s a cadence of three essential ingredients that really make what we would consider healthy progress around the world. One, it has to be locally led, we’re sourcing the most brilliant humans around the world doing some of the most phenomenal work. So help me now is like a state side, American lead team, we’re completely invisible in the eight countries that we work in, we don’t have an office, we don’t have a logo, we don’t have, we’re not calling the shots. It’s literally, we believe in collaboration or partnerships. And we’re literally building these deep friendships, and they do all the work. And we get to be the folks that helped fuel it do obviously, to giving and do it through connection and friendship, right, we create these amazing friendships. And so not only are we giving into like something around the world, we’re giving the people that we care about deeply to help create progress in our community. Two parts of that, the first part is we begin to see this frustration. As we traveled the world, and we would show up to kids home or conduct orphanage, we would always share the same story again and again. And the story is simply this most kids who live in an orphanage have parents who are living and have parents who love them. But the best thing that mom or dad could do was give their kid up to an orphanage so they can live. And so we begin to ask the question like, wait a minute, who and the what? Why does a mom or dad have to make that decision. And with the amount of wealth and technology and innovation that we see in this world, it feels like that’s a problem that we can solve, we can tackle that problem. And so the this is just really simple and basic realities, right? Most folks don’t have the opportunity to provide for themselves when you live in a country that’s, you know, the, their average, they’ll make they make $1.25 a day. And you know, the average, you know, unemployment rate is anywhere between 6070 80% Oftentimes, so you kind of work in this in kind of the black market space, if you will, and not in the formal work market. And so we just ask the question, like, what does the family need. And so the first thing a family needs is for their child to be okay. And so we can make sure children have access to the most basic needs. And I’ll try and get through the story because I just kind of thought about it, connecting some dots. I remember I was in Uganda, walking down this village, and I would walk into a house. And that was the kids sleeping on a mattress. And then I’d walk into another house and I will see kids sleeping on the floor. And I actually talked about this in my book. So I’m not just making the story up for the mattress community. And I asked our friend, Edward, Edward, like, what’s the difference? And he’s basically said, all the kids who have a mattress are part of the child sponsorship program. The kids who don’t have a mattress don’t have a sponsorship, the sponsor don’t have sponsorship yet. Now thinking just like this $35 a month, giving proportionate help now had was basic mental helping kids go to school and get access to nutrition, but it’s obviously helping them live a better life, just by the fact that they had a mattress that they can sleep on, instead of a dirt floor and you know, a blanket every night. And so I think one of the parts of giving that’s really critical is like, you can make a huge impact on very small, simple actions. And so we don’t, we’re not we have a thing called the circle, it’s $25 a month, and it helps kids get access to school, it pays teachers and everyday those kids get two meals a day. And so that solves one massive problem. The second thing that we really love is we call our family empowerment business launch program, just business launch program. And we help families launch businesses, it takes $1,000 to launch a business. It’s a two year process that has all kinds of training before and has all kinds of mentorship after but basically in about three months a family would go from making $1 a day $1.25 A day to make anywhere between 1214 16 bucks a day all because they were able to go through this process lots of business and scale that business. And what I love about it is it’s not this continual need to be a part of their of their story. They kind of recreate a spark, how can that spark help this family chase their dreams? And when those families chase their dreams, kids won’t be in orphanages. Instead there’ll be at home with mom and dad and a loving surrounded family environment.
Mark Kinsley
How many families have you sent to that family empowerment program?
Chris Marlow
We are about to hit I can give you a whole bunch of data on that too. But we’re about to hit 2000 families before the end of this year.
Mark Kinsley
That’s incredible. 1000 families whose lives are fundamentally changed forever, and the kids are back home with mom and dad. Yeah,
Chris Marlow
yeah. And the dramatic nature of this is, you know, it’s so hard when you live, I mean, in America, we have plenty of issues with poverty and a lot of mental health. And there’s a lot going on here that we need to solve in our own backyards, on a global scale. And you work in communities with extreme poverty. It’s like, they don’t even have the basics. And so there’s no feeding program, there’s no clean water access. It’s like every six to eight seconds a child dies in our world, who live in extreme poverty, because they don’t they like food, they like water, or they like sanitation, like, I mean, these are the most basic elements of living. And so when you begin to like, do the relief work, and help create a foundation, then you can do development work, and help create progress. And so help now go into a community. We listen a lot more. And we talk, we recognize what’s the quick things we can do to make progress, then how do we help long term progress. And so when we, when a family launches a business, there’s a couple of data points 96% have been successful. And their increase in wealth is an average of five to 700%. And the beautiful thing, let’s face it, we’re so busy in America, right? Like none of us, we all have pressure, we all have needs, we have community needs we have family needs. So one of things we want to do is create a very simple, powerful way for folks to feel like they can make a difference without being bogged down and overwhelmed by all the issues in this world. That’s why simplicity matters. So for 25 bucks a month, or for you know, $1,000 out with family go through a whole life changing experience. It’s a simple, powerful way to make a really big impact in our world.
Mark Quinn
In it you guys listening to you, Chris, and my two thoughts, two takeaways, dos takeaways for me. Number one, I can’t imagine how difficult it would be for a parent to have to make a decision to let them go into an orphanage. Right, just so they can sustain life, I can’t fathom that. Facing that as a parent. So that’s, that’s that the impact of that was heavy for me. But what I really like about what you’re saying, Chris, is that, you know, it’s a biblical principle, teaching people to fish, instead of giving them fish, right. So when you guys are going in, you are setting them up for future success, not just a bandaid solution for the current problem, right.
Chris Marlow
And I think every one of us in this screen has had a moment in life where we didn’t know if we’re good enough to chase our dreams. And someone, probably a guide probably entered the story and said, You can be really brilliant at this. And then they begin to help lead us until we had confidence to fly in our own right. Every one of us, we need a guide, we need someone to lift the lid of disbelief, if you will. And so I remember I was in a village in Ethiopia. And this lady is the best cook in the village. And basically, people want to eat her food all the time when I looked at her and go, Well, you know, you can open up a restaurant, right? Like if you can, if you’re a brilliant cook, you can be a chef. And because this community is mostly a kind of a male dominant community like I can never do that. I’m like, oh, yeah, you can. So we basically helped her get this program. We gave her a $500 in kind donation where she opened up a food truck in her front yard. And basically, basically, that food truck was packed every single day, all the time. And she went from making hardly anything a day, to making I think $13 a day on average. And then she realized she can open a coffee shop in the morning. And then she realized she can open up dinner in the afternoon. And then she can open up a store and then she can hire employees. The best part of the story is when I met her, she had two kids who lived in a field and they would work all day in the field to make $1 a day because she would cook all day for people but she wouldn’t earn a profit. And so the dreams of these two kids was simply to go to college and through this one simple act and helping her realize you can go from, you know, being a cook to being a chef and making a profit and running a business and hiring employees. But she saved money, built a house and bought her first house, built a house in the back of her house, rented it out and save all those profits to send her own two kids to college on her own dime. And all was because he started a very small, simple business. But beyond the business was someone came in and said we believe in you. And then our local partners in Ethiopia did all the work necessary. And now she’s running two or three businesses for kids are in college. And I haven’t seen this lady in four years, you know, and so she’s She doesn’t need us. She doesn’t need me. She’s chasing her dreams. And we all sometimes the best way to live just to believe and other people’s future and life and so sometimes we judge so easy, right? Oh, is there an extra In private, maybe they’re lazy, or they don’t want to work or it’s like, no, actually, they just need a spark and help them now just as our best to give people a spark so they can chase their own dreams.
Mark Kinsley
I love the spark, you know, we actually, Chris and the listeners, we actually have a surprise for both of you. So, okay, just upfront, Chris, we did not pack your website. But we did modify it without you knowing it because I know the right people in the right places. So if you go to help one now, you should type it in your browser, Chris, because it’s gonna be a surprise for you. Help one now.org forward slash the fam. Help one now, spell out the word one, help one now.org forward slash fam. And now through December 2. Dos Marcos in the fam, we’re going to match your gift to help one now up to $2,000 dos $1,000. So for every $1,000, we raise, like you said, we’re going to be able to empower a family and send them to start a business. And you know how it feels to be part of a family business, somebody helped you along the way. And right now you can be that person to somebody else. So we hope you’ll go there and give a gift. Because now through December 2, dos, Marcos, those $1,000, and your gift is going to be doubled. Because we believe in what you’re doing Chris, and it matches authentically with who we are because the fam is a community. And you’re creating community wherever you go. And we want to magnify that. And we think you’re amazing. And we think your community’s amazing.
Chris Marlow
Well, listen, super, super thankful for that. And one of the best parts of giving is you get the receive. So one things we want to do for your community is we want you to track with some of these families who are going through the program, where you can literally see how much better their lives will be because of your generosity. So one of the things for the podcast listeners is we want you to feel connected to the story because we do believe that transformation helps both sides. And so super thankful Mark and Mark for your generosity. And for those who are listening and you get involved. Please know we care about you as well. We want you to see your generosity. We want you to see the impact your generosity, and we believe if we do that we can create a better world a better community and we can live better lives.
Mark Quinn
Take Chris on and talk to us about some of the progress right mark that would be great to hear some of those stories and just get this this audience connected to this moment. And we can look back and kind of see where where things have gone.
Chris Marlow
Absolutely. The best part of what we do.
Mark Kinsley
Chris Marlowe, founder of help one now author of doing good is simple. Check out his book on Amazon. We’ll put links to everything in the show notes on the fam so just go to fam dot news and you can search for Chris Marlo ma r l o w and Chris it’s been an honor and a pleasure to have you here on the show. I’m gonna see in the saddle when we’re out grinding gravel here in Mountain Biking capital of the world as our friend Nick says come for the mountain biking, stay for the gravel. Right? Keep doing what you’re doing and we appreciate you and if you’re out there head to help one now.org forward slash the fam and your gift is going to double and be sure to subscribe to the newsletter subscribe to us on podcasts Leave, leave a review and if you’re subscribed to the newsletter, we’ll put links in there as well what I miss Quinn, anything
Mark Quinn
I’m so grateful to people like you for doing what you do for all the lives that you’ve impacted for the heart you put into it. I’ve met your wife she’s awesome for what you do together as a family and do me a favor please just watch out for Kinsley out there on the bike trails because we need him back here doing this podcast so
Chris Marlow
well listen, Quinn, we need you on the bike trails with us if you both have bad days and maybe bad listeners, but it’d be a fun moment.
Mark Quinn
I want to go Kinzie promised to take me so I’m gonna get in. So I’m gonna
Mark Kinsley
have to have a camera crew of Quinn is going to be on a bike because I just have to capture all these wonderful moments.
Mark Quinn
Well, Chris will take care of me he won’t he won’t leave me in the dust. I can see like take off and leave me in the back. Leave me in the back of the pack. Chris, Chris will ride with me.
Chris Marlow
Candidly, we definitely will take off and leave you so it’s part of the part of the reality of his skill set at this
Mark Kinsley
moment in time. I tend to be somebody that Sprint’s off for a while and then I come back. So I’m more. I’m kind of like an accordion writer. I’m going out here and then I’m coming back and then I’m going out and coming back. Well guys, we’ll have to get out there together at some point. In the meantime, hope you guys have a wonderful Thanksgiving with your friends and your fam. And to everybody listening. Thanks so much for tuning in. We hope you have a great Thanksgiving holiday as well. We hope you got something out of this giving episode with our friend Chris Marlowe.
Chris Marlow
Thank you
